OP, feel bad for obviously unpleasant situation, but I don't think the way this is written makes you come across in a good light at all. Maybe just me?
thanks for taking the time to research my background everyone and sharing your impressions! love that free speech from all the esteemed writers in these comments
Median age of a YC founder is 24-25. It’s kids hiring kids for startup pressure cookers where most will fail. Professionalism is nice, I highly recommend it when you’re equipped to deliver it (both emotionally and through life experience) but as a professional, I wouldn’t expect it in these contexts. More like a series of tech frat houses grinding to liquidity, acquisition, or failure (from least to most likely).
If you’re going to fail hard and learn it from it, you could do worse than these experiences. If you’re at a startup, you’re either there for the economic opportunity of being on a rocket ship (equity lottery ticket), learning how to be a founder (because you might want to found your own startup), or learning how to do what your role is because you don’t have enough experience to be hired elsewhere (imho). Getting fired is fine, as long as you grow from the experience and weren’t actively or intentionally malicious (don’t do that). Pick yourself up, do better next role and company cast. It’s just a job.
I can appreciate the experience you had. With time and experience comes wisdom. Most of us are figuring all of this out along the way. Try to approach these situations with grace in the future, even when you aren’t managed as you’d expect to be. Assume positive intent until you have strong evidence you no longer shouldn’t, but also have a strong safety net and plans so you’re never tied to a job economically. This makes getting fired or having to quit a minor annoyance versus an event making you feel like you need to scorch the Earth. Wishing you a positive trajectory and that you land somewhere more compatible.
I didn't want to be rude but to be more specific: It comes across as "god this guy is insufferable, I don't blame them" especially the tone with which he asked to be dismissed/leave?
so glad the tone was conveyed through the thoughtful writing i artfully crafted. as oscar wilde says "when the critics disagree the artist is in accord with himeself"
I feel for you, getting fired is pretty terrible, and and everyone assumes you did something bad to earn it.
But you forgot to say a few things in your post:
Hey everyone, I made an expensive move and changed my life for a job, and it didn't work out. In fact, I got fired. If anyone is looking for someone with experience in X Y and Z, I'm your guy.
Reading the title, I thought the company did something horrible to you, but I must have missed it from the text.
(The biggest crime I see in this text though is the inconsistent capitalization in sf)
i am grateful. they paid me. commensurate to all of our aligned expectations. as elon recently said in the Economist interview: "i don't think i've said many inaccurate things i can predict my future quite well."
what are these comments? induced by the writer? predicted or not? what is the average view count of his productive function? how would tyler cowen rate it.
I worked at a startup that offered to triple my equity if I stayed a full four years, a special offer to me for seven months of excellent performance. Four months later, growth below projections, they laid me off 19 days before my 1 year cliff. 3/9ths of the engineering team, gone.
The lesson I’ve learned is to never, ever, put long hours into a startup you don’t own. Ever.
When you say own you mean fractionally, or founder level share only?
The thing is even if you 'have' the equity share as an employee, you might never get liquidity. And (super obviously) most startups fail.
So even if you have a decent chunk of 'ownership', you really, _really_ need to believe in it to be working those hours. I'm talking the kind of belief built on your specialist and insider knowledge about why it's very likely to crush everything else. And even then you can get screwed!
What leads you to believe this post would make you attractive to another employer?
You even publicly posted your Separation Agreement, which contains a confidentiality clause in which you "agree[d] to maintain in complete confidence the existence of this Agreement."
It hurts to be let go and in these economic times, it can be scary. But this post is actually doing the opposite of what you want it to.
my network is not on hacker news comments nor linkedin reading crap like what i posted haha.
thanks for reading the fine print i didn't realize i had to not post that legally i will take it down now. tried contacted the lawyers (Cat & Zach & Jona but they didn't reply so now i will take it down. no prob. i'm compliant.)
Your network is not on HN but you submitted this and asked "please go upvote or leave your comments here:" with a link to HN?
Anyone in your "network" who sincerely wants to help would give you the simple advice I'm going to give you: grow up. This post and all of your replies here are cringey and immature, and don't bode well for your employability no matter how smart you are (or think you are).
OP strikes me as quite childish. I’m guessing he’s quite young, nothing wrong with that.
And yeah, the circumstances aren’t great (the stressful move to SF in particular). Tough break!
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If you’re going to fail hard and learn it from it, you could do worse than these experiences. If you’re at a startup, you’re either there for the economic opportunity of being on a rocket ship (equity lottery ticket), learning how to be a founder (because you might want to found your own startup), or learning how to do what your role is because you don’t have enough experience to be hired elsewhere (imho). Getting fired is fine, as long as you grow from the experience and weren’t actively or intentionally malicious (don’t do that). Pick yourself up, do better next role and company cast. It’s just a job.
But you forgot to say a few things in your post:
Hey everyone, I made an expensive move and changed my life for a job, and it didn't work out. In fact, I got fired. If anyone is looking for someone with experience in X Y and Z, I'm your guy.
Reading the title, I thought the company did something horrible to you, but I must have missed it from the text.
(The biggest crime I see in this text though is the inconsistent capitalization in sf)
The tactlessness is just awful. I would consider deleting that post.
is it that you need a new job and this is the hook? or do you have some insight into better ways of being letgo/fired/parted ways with?
its also not clear how long you were there for? (i'm not in the business of stalking people on linkedin)
some of us CEO types gotta grind and stalk on linkedin until the people come to us haha
I worked at a startup that offered to triple my equity if I stayed a full four years, a special offer to me for seven months of excellent performance. Four months later, growth below projections, they laid me off 19 days before my 1 year cliff. 3/9ths of the engineering team, gone.
The lesson I’ve learned is to never, ever, put long hours into a startup you don’t own. Ever.
Equity is a carrot that you usually never get, like the donkey you just keep chasing it.
https://aiosmedical.notion.site/working-at-aios https://www.linkedin.com/posts/richard-cartwright_40x-in-12m...
disclosure he's my friend and i already re-posted this to linkedin
The thing is even if you 'have' the equity share as an employee, you might never get liquidity. And (super obviously) most startups fail.
So even if you have a decent chunk of 'ownership', you really, _really_ need to believe in it to be working those hours. I'm talking the kind of belief built on your specialist and insider knowledge about why it's very likely to crush everything else. And even then you can get screwed!
I mean, I just don't get it. There doesn't seem to be a purpose, and no ostensible benefit to be had.
You even publicly posted your Separation Agreement, which contains a confidentiality clause in which you "agree[d] to maintain in complete confidence the existence of this Agreement."
It hurts to be let go and in these economic times, it can be scary. But this post is actually doing the opposite of what you want it to.
thanks for reading the fine print i didn't realize i had to not post that legally i will take it down now. tried contacted the lawyers (Cat & Zach & Jona but they didn't reply so now i will take it down. no prob. i'm compliant.)
thanks kindly!!! appreciate the comment.
Anyone in your "network" who sincerely wants to help would give you the simple advice I'm going to give you: grow up. This post and all of your replies here are cringey and immature, and don't bode well for your employability no matter how smart you are (or think you are).